Showing posts with label antidepressant side effects. Show all posts
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Sunday, July 13, 2025

The Latest Antidepressant Withdrawal Paper….

 



The big news this week was an antidepressant withdrawal paper that showed most people can stop an antidepressant without experiencing severe withdrawal symptoms.  This has been known for over 20 years.  It is only big news because of the rhetorical approach to paper writing in the psychiatric literature.  Everybody knows what confirmation bias is these days and that has a lot to do with the literature.  Quite remarkably, the camp that claims a high prevalence of severe withdrawal also writes from the perspective that most psychiatrists seem ignorant of withdrawal phenomena and need special instruction.  That despite decades of practice modification, teaching residents how to taper and discontinue medications, managing much more complex medication problems in acute care settings, diagnosing life threatening medication related problems, and having access to widely published guidelines on how to taper and cross taper and titrate medications.  

With that backdrop here are the highpoints and limitations of the paper.  The first remarkable finding is the title:  “Incidence and Nature of Antidepressant Discontinuation Symptoms.”  Discontinuation versus withdrawal is a decade old point of contention. The antidepressant detractors use the term withdrawal and at times have incorrectly suggested that antidepressants are addictive drugs. The antidepressant defenders have preferred the term discontinuation symptoms although some have just started using the term withdrawal as well. There is no consistent standard for medication that can lead to addiction and those that do not.  Part of the reason may be that physicians are trained to discontinue medications and with all classes that typically involves a gradual taper or a taper while titrating a medication that targets the same symptoms.

The overall study looked at 50 studies (N=17,858) in a meta-analysis and systematic review.  All studies were randomized clinical trials or open label trials with a randomized double blind discontinuation phase.  All the studies had to use a standardized measurement for discontinuation symptoms or adverse events. The antidepressant trials covered several diagnoses in addition to depression.  From the paper:

“The following diagnoses were studied: major depressive disorder (MDD) (k = 28), generalized anxiety disorder (k = 9), panic disorder (k = 4), fibromyalgia (k = 2), premenstrual dysphoric disorder(k = 2), posttraumatic stress disorder, generalized social anxiety disorder (k = 1),and compulsive-shopping disorder (k = 1). Two studies included women with (post)menopause.”

The main methodological points that need further elaboration are the withdrawal symptom scoring and the duration of treatment.  The original DESS (Discontinuation Emergent Signs and Symptoms) is from reference 2.  It was originally used on the sample in that paper of research 242 research subjects who had been on effective maintenance therapy for greater than 4 months or less than 24 months with either paroxetine, sertraline, or fluoxetine.  The maintenance therapy was interrupted for 5-8 days with placebo and their discontinuation symptoms were rated using the DESS.  The DESS items are listed below along with the original question format. 

As I read through the 43-item checklist – I noted that one of the commonest symptoms I have seen in antidepressant withdrawal – brain zaps was not present. Brain zaps are typically described as a sharp electrical sensation in the head or neck during SSRI/SNRI withdrawal.  They can be worsened by head, neck, or eye movements.  They are typically described as paresthesias and in the case of this checklist may be partially reflected in items 39 and 40. 

The best starting point to gain an appreciation of the scope and complexity of this study is eTable 2a Study Characteristics in the Supplemental Content.  I have copied page 1 (of 5) below.  51 studies are listed including 44 for the individual symptoms meta-analysis, 16 for the continuous DESS meta-analysis, and 1 for the qualitative synthesis. The duration of treatment range for all groups was 13.5-17.8 weeks with significant outliers at each end.  Most tapering protocols were abrupt (35/51) with 14/51 1-week taper, 3/51 2-week taper, and 1/51 5–6-week tapers.  Just based on the characteristics in this table it would appear that most subjects were treated long enough to potentially develop acute discontinuation symptoms and that in most cases they would have been precipitated by the tapers used.


The medications studied in this table are also relevant since several are more likely to precipitate a withdrawal syndrome than others. In this case paroxetine (6), venlafaxine (1), and duloxetine (9) are less common in the table.  In this case I am not counting the extended-release versions (where noted) because they were designed to reduce the risk of discontinuation/withdrawal. This can be noted in eTable 2B. Summary DESS Scores of Studies Included Meta-Analysis where they produce the highest DESS score with paroxetine producing the highest.  Fewer significant withdrawal producing medications in the study is a strength because it reflects current psychiatric practice.  

The authors’ analysis shows that antidepressant discontinuation results in expected discontinuations symptoms at one week.  Dizziness and nausea were the commonest symptoms.  The incidence of withdrawal symptoms was less when active drug was compared to placebo.  Their key conclusion that all of the press has been based on:

“In conclusion, data from RCTs suggest that on average, those who discontinue antidepressants experience 1 more discontinuation symptom compared to placebo or continuation of antidepressants, which is below the threshold for clinically important discontinuation syndrome.”

They end by discussing the notoriety issue when limited data and analysis has suggested that severe, prolonged withdrawal/discontinuation syndromes are common and need elaborate tapering schedules.    

What are the overall lessons from this trial:

1:  The research design was well done to detect withdrawal symptoms measured with standardized methods.  The DESS scale is available and can be used as a reference to these research findings.  The main finding that there was an excess of one symptom in the withdrawal group but that was not enough to diagnose a withdrawal syndrome was remarkable and consistent with press reporting that the average withdrawal from antidepressants is mild and should not be a deterrent to their use.  The limitation of that conclusion is that the DESS is not a quantitative measure as indicated by the authors.  Even though there is precedent in the literature for four symptoms or more being necessary for a significant withdrawal syndrome – clinically it can be much less.  As an example, dizziness (the commonest symptom) alone can lead to distress and disability.  Any person with vertigo can attest to that fact. I am not in agreement that it takes 4 symptoms for significant withdrawal. 

2:  While the results of this trial are being celebrated at the political level it will not have much of an impact on clinical practice. Psychiatrists do not treat averages – they treat individual patients with highly individual responses to medications.  Despite these results there will be patients who get severe withdrawal symptoms from antidepressants.  There is more than enough information about the relevant medications and pharmacokinetics to minimize or prevent withdrawal symptoms from happening.

3:  In discussing the relevance of this widely publicized paper with patients - good clinical practice still necessitates that the following topics are covered in detail during informed consent discussions:

a)  The indications, risk, and benefits of antidepressant treatment for the specific patient and the options of other treatments (psychotherapy, lifestyle changes).

b)  The adverse effects of antidepressants including withdrawal as well as serious life-threatening adverse effects like serotonin syndrome.

c)  Detailed information on the suggested medication as an option at patient request – such as the FDA approved package inserts.

d)  Explicit call information for discussing both a lack of efficacy and any potential adverse effects including any change from baseline that was not explicitly discussed.

4:  In terms of settling any withdrawal or antidepressant controversy once and for all that is a doubtful outcome.  Research can be designed to support the extreme positions on either end. It is just a matter of time before the opposition comes out with a “new” analysis to support their contention that antidepressants are over prescribed dangerous drugs with very little therapeutic efficacy.  There used to be a research term called face validity or a subjective assessment of research hypotheses that applies in this situation. It should be apparent that antidepressants are useful medications and they can be safely prescribed to many people.  It should also be apparent that clinical care is self-optimized to improve outcomes rather than looking for possible positive and negative signals in an objective way.  These are all valuable lessons from another paper in this matter.

5:  There is also a thought experiment that can be considered in the case of known risk for antidepressant withdrawal. Suppose that a person has tried everything to treat their depression or anxiety disorder and found that the only thing that worked was an antidepressant.  Let us further suppose that missing even a single dose of that medication results in severe dizziness, brain zaps, and nausea. After a detailed conversation about tapering and discontinuing the medication or tapering the medication while starting a new one, or referral for ECT or TMS neurostimulation – the patient elects to continue the antidepressant with the risk of withdrawal.  I have had that conversation and similar conversations about side effects with many patients.  It is a common conversation and one that most people do not understand until they are in that position.  This is a position that tens of thousands of people are in – typically with medications that are far more toxic than antidepressants.        

6:  At the political and public health level - treating complicated disorders with complicated medications and other therapies do not lend themselves to easy polling solutions.  I notice that there are disclaimers on many commentaries these days that criticize one modality or another but in the end state "we do recommend that you seek treatment for this disorder."  It reminded me of the decades long practice in psychiatry of dismissing research based on conflicts of interest that were typically research support or compensation for working on drug trials.  I would give the same advice that I gave then to any psychiatrist who thinks that antidepressants are too dangerous or ineffective to use - don't use them. 

This was an excellent study that needed to be done. It reflects the reality of clinical psychiatry where practice has been modified over that past 20-30 years to use medications with better tolerability, safety, and efficacy.  This is done with every successive wave of newer medications in every medical specialty.  

Finally, not enough people see research papers as arguments for analysis.  When you do that – they can be analyzed from a scientific, rational, and moral dimension and just how rhetorical those arguments are.  In many cases in psychiatry – the papers are purely rhetorical.  I encourage more editors to do that analysis in what I expect will be rejoinders to this paper.  One of the best ways to do that is by comparing the paper to current clinical reality.    

Yes – real life counts for something.

 

George Dawson, MD, DFAPA



References:

1:  Kalfas M, Tsapekos D, Butler M, McCutcheon RA, Pillinger T, Strawbridge R, Bhat BB, Haddad PM, Cowen PJ, Howes OD, Joyce DW, Nutt DJ, Baldwin DS, Pariante CM, Lewis G, Young AH, Lewis G, Hayes JF, Jauhar S. Incidence and Nature of Antidepressant Discontinuation Symptoms: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. JAMA Psychiatry. 2025 Jul 9:e251362. doi: 10.1001/jamapsychiatry.2025.1362. Epub ahead of print. PMID: 40632531; PMCID: PMC12242823.

2:  Rosenbaum JF, Fava M, Hoog SL, Ascroft RC, Krebs WB. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor discontinuation syndrome: a randomized clinical trial. Biol Psychiatry. 1998 Jul 15;44(2):77-87. doi: 10.1016/s0006-3223(98)00126-7. PMID: 9646889.

 

Photo Credit:  Thanks to fellow Northland College Alumnus - Rick Ziegler.


Copyright Credit:  Both tables are unmodified from reference 1 and 2 and are used here for not-for-profit educational purposes only.  The copyrights are with the respective publishers noted in those references and are presented here unmodified.  

Thursday, September 29, 2022

Emotional Blunting By Antidepressants - Does It Occur?

 


Ron Pies and I reviewed three recent papers on emotional blunting in this paper called Antidepressants Do Not Work by Numbing Emotions. It is a very self-explanatory essay that I encourage anyone to read if they have an interest in that topic specifically or in the general repetitive criticism that only our field seems to enjoy. I have previously commented on the rhetorical aspects to a previous paper and recent publications allow us to address specific scientific issues. The main argument that emotional blunting is the mechanism by which antidepressants work - has no scientific merit as explained in the essay. The basic argument is that if emotional blunting is rated at baseline before any antidepressants are started it is present and as treatment begins and starts to work – emotional blunting decreases as the depression remits. That led the authors we reviewed to conclude it was more likely a symptom of depression than either a mechanism of action or a side effect.

 1:  Measurement – is a better measurement needed?

In the reviewed studies we made some specific comments on the methodologies used to detect emotional blunting specifically Item 8 of the Montgomery Åsberg Depression Rating Scale (MADRS) or the Oxford Depression Questionnaire (ODQ). The ODQ was previously the Oxford Questionnaire on the Emotional Side-effects of Antidepressants (OQESA or OQuESA).

The single item on the MADRS provides the most unbiased assessment of emotional blunting and is a single question worded very much like a clinician might ask to assess the problem. The ODQ has more questions and a specific question where the subject is asked to estimate whether or not the antidepressant is contributing to antidepressant side effects.  Since no other potential etiologies (like depression) were considered we thought that these were questions that might lead to predictable biases like choosing antidepressants as the cause of decreased emotional range rather than the depression.

Are there better questionnaire designs to eliminate bias and allow for quantification.  Two good examples include the Attributional Style Questionnaire (ASQ) (1) and the Cognitive Style Questionnaire (CSQ) (2). In both of these questionnaires - subjects are asked in an open format to write down what they consider to be the cause of a hypothetical situation, answer a question about that situation, and then rate the important of the cause. The questions are all focused on perceived internal and external causes of depression consistent with the cognitive theory of depression. There is no reason why a similar questionnaire could not be designed to find cognitive and emotional side effects of medications.  It could be validated by including questions about the known physical side effects of medication.    

2:  Normal subjects taking antidepressants:

In thinking about unbiased opinions about the emotional effects of antidepressants my mind wandered back to a paper I read in the American Journal of Psychiatry many years ago.  It was easy to remember because it involved giving fluoxetine to research subjects who had no known psychiatric diagnoses. In that study – 15 subjects were enrolled and took placebo for two weeks followed by fluoxetine 10 mg x 1 week then fluoxetine 20 mg/day x 5 weeks and then placebo daily for two weeks.  There were assessed weekly on standard scales for anxiety and depression.  They were also assessed weekly on the General Well Being Schedule and the Quality of Life Enjoyment and Satisfaction Questionnaire.  Subjects were also assessed weekly for side effects and only three of the 15 subjects reported side effects and they were nausea, dyspepsia, and dizziness – all typical SSRI side effects.  The authors conclude:

“No significant effects attributable to fluoxetine were observed on any of the psychological variables examined. Minimal adverse effects were reported. … Significant mood elevating and other psychological effects of fluoxetine would appear to be induced only when symptomatic targets exist.”

Interestingly these authors contrast their work with that of Peter Kramer (4) and suggest that: “….mood-enhancing and other psychoactive effects of SSRIs are not a general property of these agents but are manifest in the context of target symptoms.”  A similar argument has been made about emotional blunting and why it may not occur in normal subjects.

In a second study of fluoxetine and dothiepin in subjects without mental illness a 5 week placebo controlled, double blind crossover study was used (4).  Each subject received each treatment and placebo.  The active treatment lasted for 35 days. Subjects received fluoxetine 20 mg/day or dothiepin (a tricyclic antidepressant) titrated to 150 mg/day. They were tested at day 10 and day 36.  Eleven mood ratings using an analogue scale were done three times a day. The subjects were also asked is they had any “problems with your health”.  Some increased irritability (3 subjects), anxiety (one subject), and “mood lowering” (2 subjects) was noted.  There were no reports of emotional blunting. The researchers generally reported:

“Throughout the study period, all subjects remained well, including during the drug-free periods between treatments.”

In looking for a third study, I found one by David Healy – a well-known pharmaceutical business critic (6).  This study involved 20 subjects randomized to receive 2 weeks of either reboxetine or sertraline in a cross over design.  There was an option to increase either drug to the next expected level on day 5 of active drug treatment.  Three scales were done on a daily basis including the Profile Of Mood States (POMS), Positive and Negative Affect Scale (PANAS), and the Social Adaptation Self Evaluation Scale (SASS).  A side effects questionnaire was administered. Subjects were also asked if they could distinguish the “behavioral effects” of the drugs and to rate their preferences on an 11 point Likert scale ranging from “worse than normal (-5) to better than normal (+5).  A relevant excerpt from this paper:

“In focus group settings, while still under the blind, half of the subjects volunteered that sertraline made them mellow, or less emotionally reactive and that these effects were either appreciated or not, while yet others described agitation. Effects consistent with a reduction in emotional reactivity were not described with reboxetine.”

This focus group observation was not observed in any of the data collected from the mood rating scales.  The authors point out studies suggesting that normal volunteers do not tolerate medications well and suggest that their study shows that tolerance of the antidepressant may depend on whether it is a preferred agent of the subject.  Side effects listed but not quantitated include chilblains, sweats, insomnia, nausea, sexual dysfunction, and “jaw or throat dyskinesias or dystonias on sertraline.”

In summary, my main additional concerns about the emotional blunting issue and whether it occurs to any extent with antidepressants is one of accuracy of measurement and why it has been conspicuously absent in clinical trials until recently – including trials where antidepressants are given to normal controls (defined as volunteers screened for the presence of any current or lifetime psychiatric disorders).  Although I suggested a way to get to a much less biased measurement of emotional blunting, I have a question about whether it can be accurately measured at all in an era where psychiatric research is often presented as political debate in social media and the popular press. There have been many examples of how biased press coverage has misrepresented the effects of psychiatric medications and you only have to look as far as the Peter Kramer reference and the appendix on “Violence”.  A study to look at a better questionnaire to see if this is ever spontaneously mentioned when it is not cued would be useful - but it is probably not any more possible today than asking if the last election was stolen. 

On the issue of emotional blunting in clinical practice – I have seen the equivalent in some patients over the years. I typically discuss it with people as restricted affective range that either they notice or other people notice. It typically occurs during reassessments of people who have partially remitted depressions. At that point in time, it makes sense to discuss the time course of that phenomenon and try to determine the time course and whether it is improving or getting worse. After making it explicit at that point – the options in clinical care include continued observation or an immediate change to a different medication. That aspect of clinical care would be an interesting study in itself – because in my experience the majority of people do not want to change the medication at that initial discussion. I think it is also an element of ongoing informed consent at that point.

At a practical level, I think that the study by Peters, Balbuena, and Lodhi (7) that we referenced has paved the way for many more replication studies for any RCTs of antidepressants that used the Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale (MADRS) and that is a very significant number.

It also requires a degree of biological sophistication to realize that brain systems are so complex and individualized that you cannot expect a medication to affect everyone in the exact same way – either positively or negatively. In fact, you cannot have that expectation in attempting to treat far less complex organ systems. Responses to treatment and side effects in medicine are always probability statements.


George Dawson, MD, DFAPA

 

References:

1. Peterson C, Semmel A, Von Baeyer C, Abramson LY, Metalsky GI, Seligman ME. The attributional style questionnaire. Cognitive therapy and research. 1982 Sep;6(3):287-99.

2.  Haeffel GJ, Gibb BE, Metalsky GI, Alloy LB, Abramson LY, Hankin BL, Joiner Jr TE, Swendsen JD. Measuring cognitive vulnerability to depression: Development and validation of the cognitive style questionnaire. Clinical Psychology Review. 2008 Jun 1;28(5):824-36

3.  Gelfin Y, Gorfine M, Lerer B. Effect of clinical doses of fluoxetine on psychological variables in healthy volunteers. Am J Psychiatry. 1998 Feb;155(2):290-2. doi: 10.1176/ajp.155.2.290. PMID: 9464215.

4. Kramer PD: Listening to Prozac. New York, Penguin, 1993

5.  Wilson SJ, Bailey JE, Alford C, Weinstein A, Nutt DJ. Effects of 5 weeks of administration of fluoxetine and dothiepin in normal volunteers on sleep, daytime sedation, psychomotor performance and mood. J Psychopharmacol. 2002 Dec;16(4):321-31. doi: 10.1177/026988110201600406. PMID: 12503831.

6.  Tranter R, Healy H, Cattell D, Healy D. Functional effects of agents differentially selective to noradrenergic or serotonergic systems. Psychol Med. 2002 Apr;32(3):517-24. doi: 10.1017/s0033291701005086. PMID: 11989996.

7.  Peters EM, Balbuena L, Lodhi RJ. Emotional blunting with bupropion and serotonin reuptake inhibitors in three randomized controlled trials for acute major depressive disorder. J Affect Disord. 2022 Dec 1;318:29-32. doi: 10.1016/j.jad.2022.08.066. Epub 2022 Aug 24. PMID: 36029876.

8.  Hieronymus F, Lisinski A, Østergaard SD, Eriksson E. The response pattern to SSRIs as assessed by the Montgomery-Åsberg Depression Rating Scale: a patient-level meta-analysis. World Psychiatry. 2022 Oct;21(3):472-473. doi: 10.1002/wps.21029. PMID: 36073711; PMCID: PMC9453909.


Supplementary:

I was made aware of a new analysis of MADRS data (8) today after writing the above essay.  Those authors analyzed MADRS ratings from 4,243 subjects participating in twelve acute phase placebo‐controlled trials of an SSRI in major depression and looked at emotional blunting on Item 8 of the scale. They found that treatment reduced emotional blunting with the same effect size as other items on the scale.  They agree with the opinion that emotional blunting should not be ignored but in the case of these antidepressant trials the ratings moved in a favorable direction.

Updated Table including this new analysis (click to see a clearer version):



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Sunday, June 9, 2019

Spare The Venlafaxine.....







Venlafaxine is a commonly prescribed second-generation antidepressant. It is well-known to psychiatrists because it is a second line medication if SSRIs fail and for many psychiatrists it is another first-line antidepressant. In some head-to-head comparisons with SSRIs venlafaxine has a more favorable side effect profile. It does have the risk of discontinuation symptoms and typical antidepressant side effects. I have noticed that the dose escalation with venlafaxine seems to be out of proportion with SSRIs, bupropion, and third-generation antidepressants.

Consider the following venlafaxine related scenarios:

1. A colleague comes into my office late in the day and asks me: “Have you ever heard of venlafaxine causing sedation at higher doses?” The patient in question was just increased from 187.5 mg to 225 mg - the suggested max dose according to the FDA approved package insert. 

2. I am asked to consult on patient who had extensive pharmacogenomic testing in a different facility where she was told that she may need to take 350 to 450 mg of venlafaxine per day based on that genetic profile. She wants to make sure that she gets an adequate dose of the antidepressant and is currently on 225 mg.  I reviewed the limitations of that approach with the patient and potential side effects and I let her know that the commonest side effect I see in people taking high-dose venlafaxine is excessive sedation or low energy in the daytime. As we start to follow the recommended dose increase she discloses that she has had sedation even at the 225 mg level. We decreased the dose to 150 mg and that side effect is gone.  Her depression is also gone.

3. I see a significant number of patients taking more than 300 mg per day of venlafaxine from the same geographic location in the United States. They all tell me that the target dose in that location is 350 mg per day and they are all experiencing numerous side effects. Many had dose escalations into that range in a week or two - much faster than any increase I have done.

What is wrong with this picture? Why are there a significant number of people taking more than the recommended dose of venlafaxine in some cases much more and appearing to have side effects? The roots of this prescribing behavior can be traced back to old-school psychopharmacology. Proponents of that approach suggests that there may always be a group of outliers that need to take higher-than-expected doses of medications - typically antidepressants but there has also been a history of excessive dosing of antipsychotic medications. People were generally more cautious with more toxic medications like tricyclic antidepressants, monoamine oxidase inhibitors, lithium, and various addictive compounds. They also seem to be more cautious with SSRI type medications at least initially. It took over a decade for me to see a dose of sertraline in excess of the maximum recommended dose.  While it is true that there are always outliers in terms of dose-response what is the best way to approach that problem.

I have attended medical education courses where the lecturer suggested titrating the medication to the point of toxicity and then reducing it back down to the next lowest dose. That particular lecture was focused on treating anxiety disorders with SSRIs. I don’t think that is the best approach. The best approach to me is one where the patient recovers from anxiety or depression and the process does not experience a single side effect. I know that can be done because I have been doing it for decades.

That also brings me to what I think is a good research article that looks at optimal dosage ranges. It is a very large meta-analysis of fixed dose randomized clinical trials that utilize the specific antidepressants - citalopram, escitalopram, fluoxetine, paroxetine, sertraline, venlafaxine, and mirtazapine.  The trials were identified by searching the literature and looking for unpublished studies specifically by searching national drug licensing agencies and requests directly to pharmaceutical manufacturers. Outcomes were noted at eight weeks of treatment and defined as a 50% reduction on an observer rated scale for depression.  Dose equivalence among medications was determined from previous studies and the recommendations of the manufacturer. The article is written by researchers that I consider to be world experts in meta-analyses and the analysis of large data sets in psychiatry.

77 studies were identified from a total of 24,524 published references and 4030 unpublished records.  27 were published, 21 or unpublished, and 29 were both published and unpublished. The study showed too hard when treatment groups across all of the medications of interest between the years 1986 and 2013.

The authors calculated dose response, dropouts due to adverse effects, and dropouts for any reason. Relative risks (RRs) were calculated for specific doses. The dose outcome relationships for venlafaxine are included in the figures below from the original article.  The Response figure shows the significant increase of up to about 150 mg and then a much more modest increase beyond that. The Dropout figure shows a similar increase up to the 150 mg range. The Dropout for any reason was less remarkable. The authors calculated that the 75-150 mg dose of venlafaxine was equivalent to 20 to 40 mg of fluoxetine (click to enlarge graphic)




The authors conclude that optimal acceptability of SSRIs and venlafaxine and and mirtazapine occurs within the lower end of the licensed dose range. They reconcile this with serotonin transporter (SERT) studies that show that 80% SERT occupancy occurs at the minimum doses of SSRIs or venlafaxine with further dose increases showing small increase in SERT occupancy.

In the case of venlafaxine they suggest that noradrenalin reuptake transporter (NET) may require higher doses of venlafaxine in the 225 mg to 375 mg per day range. Given the lack of efficacy of atomoxetine, a logical question might be whether NET blockade adds much to the antidepressant effect.

The authors review other dose-efficacy studies of antidepressants and point out that they are variable. The variability ranges from optimal doses of fluoxetine in the 21-40 mg per day range to doses at the recommended lower end of the range being superior. Response to doses in the higher range were variable in some studies. One study found a significant greater response for high-dose antidepressants but the dose of 40-50 mg fluoxetine equivalents showed the greatest efficacy.

The authors considered strengths and limitations their study. They thought that their state-of-the-art meta-analysis was a strength as well as the size of the data set. They also examined dose dependency for both efficacy and tolerability and acceptability. The limitations they discussed included patient selection and dosing not reflecting clinical practice. They also discussed the calculation of dose equivalency among antidepressants and how that might be problematic.

Another obvious strength of this study is the calculation of relative risks for response across SSRIs, venlafaxine, and mirtazapine. The figures are modest but favor antidepressants across all dosage ranges with the exception of mirtazapine at the 60 mg dose.  The authors don’t seem to mention it but it would seem that the optimal dosage ranges could be predicted from the regulatory information since that is based on dose ranging studies and tolerability studies. In that regard, the conclusion about dose ranges don’t seem to be that surprising but they may be needed given what is happening clinically.

Getting back to the issue with venlafaxine I see people respond to dosing within the lower and of the range from 37.5 to 75 mg in many cases. That same response rate continues up to the 150 mg dose and then starts to diminish between two or 25 and 375 mg. Over that same range there is a significant increase in dropout rates due to adverse effects.

How clinicians approach this new information will be interesting. There will still be people like me and the conservative camp looking for the first signs of side effects and toxicity and deciding at that point whether to stop dose escalation. I explicitly tell people that the goal is not to experience any side effects and that I doubt that people “get used to” side effects. There are clearly clinicians out there who are doing exactly the opposite and that is increasing the dose of venlafaxine and advising people to either tolerate the side effects or expect that they will go away.

The balance between therapeutic effect and side effects is a central issue in all branches of medicine. In many cases, the severity of adverse effects like an allergic reaction determines the decision. In the case of the medication like venlafaxine making that decision can be complex. Some of the side effects like sedation and lethargy at high doses can mimic symptoms of depression. At this point in time neither pharmacogenomics or most plasma level determinations guarantees either tolerability or efficacy.  

Detailed analysis of the situation by an expert with a bias toward preventing side effects is required as the first step in any dose increase.


George Dawson, MD, DFAPA




References:

1:  Furukawa TA, Cipriani A, Cowen PJ, Leucht S, Egger M, Salanti G.  Optimal dose of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, venlafaxine, and mirtazapine in major depression: a systematic review and dose-response meta-analysis.  Published:June 06, 2019DOI:  https://doi.org/10.1016/S2215-0366(19)30217-2.


Attribution:

Above figure of the venlafaxine dose response and drop outs are directly from the paper in reference 1 and used per the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International Public License.


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